Comments on: Emmy-Nominated Actor Benjamin Bratt http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/ A Lambda Chi Alpha Fraternity publication Tue, 27 Jul 2010 00:39:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Rosario Wohlsen http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-13169 Rosario Wohlsen Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:38:47 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-13169 I do not belong to your fraternity but I have read the article object of discussion because I am Peruvian. Bashing each other in a public forum takes away from your status of gentlemen. This my be directed mainly to the brothers but you are not the only ones that read it. I think it was an excellent article, very informative and interesting. It depicted the serene and noble character of one of your brothers and it made me think of suggesting my kid to go to one of your houses when he attends the University next Fall. Sadly, I changed my mind after witnessing the little kindness you show to each other while filling your mouths with the word "brother" Grow up! I do not belong to your fraternity but I have read the article object of discussion because I am Peruvian. Bashing each other in a public forum takes away from your status of gentlemen. This my be directed mainly to the brothers but you are not the only ones that read it. I think it was an excellent article, very informative and interesting. It depicted the serene and noble character of one of your brothers and it made me think of suggesting my kid to go to one of your houses when he attends the University next Fall. Sadly, I changed my mind after witnessing the little kindness you show to each other while filling your mouths with the word “brother” Grow up!

]]> By: Greg J. Bennett http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-1479 Greg J. Bennett Wed, 13 Dec 2006 00:22:04 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-1479 Everyone seems to have an opinion but few seem to have their facts straight. I attended UCSB from 1981-1985, and rushed Benjamin into the house. I also lived in the house all except the first seven weeks of my first quarter ... another story. Ben might have graduated in 1986, he was behind me in school. He did live in the house for at least a couple of years. He was sober and courteous and serious about acting from the start. Everyone seems to have an opinion but few seem to have their facts straight. I attended UCSB from 1981-1985, and rushed Benjamin into the house. I also lived in the house all except the first seven weeks of my first quarter … another story. Ben might have graduated in 1986, he was behind me in school. He did live in the house for at least a couple of years. He was sober and courteous and serious about acting from the start.

]]> By: Paul Ramey http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-1140 Paul Ramey Mon, 06 Nov 2006 13:28:55 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-1140 It's all about the Fraternity and Brotherhood. If a Brother isn't inclined to give an interview, we shouldn't be inclined to print an article about him. While I like his work as an actor, I'm disturbed that he wouldn't grant an interview for the Cross & Crescent. Paul Ramey #114 ECU '67 It’s all about the Fraternity and Brotherhood. If a Brother isn’t inclined to give an interview, we shouldn’t be inclined to print an article about him. While I like his work as an actor, I’m disturbed that he wouldn’t grant an interview for the Cross & Crescent.

Paul Ramey #114
ECU ’67

]]> By: Tom Rambo, LXZ #54, 1972 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-970 Tom Rambo, LXZ #54, 1972 Mon, 09 Oct 2006 15:58:41 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-970 With all due respect to Brother Broglin, this most certainly is the proper forum to offer criticisms. Any editor should be concerned with the opinions of his/her readers regarding the content of their work. If you're going to write and edit in a web-based format and you can't deal with criticsim, you're in the wrong line of work! One of the advantages (or disadvantages, depending on your perspective) of the web is that you can provide/receive immediate feedback. I write for a living, providing content for online training courses on a variety of different subjects. I get feedback on a regular basis. If it's helpful, I incorporate it into my work; if it's not, I blow it off. Regardless of whether it's pro or con, one thing is for sure; I'm going to receive it whether I like it or not. As I said in my previous comment, I would be more than happy to provide content for C&C, as I'm sure Brother Woods would, or any of our brothers with some talent for writing. It would, of course, be subject to review by Jason Pearce in his role as editor. Again, my opinion of the publication overall is quite positive. I will, however, continue to offer constructive criticism when I feel it's warranted, as I would hope all brothers would do, and as I would hope Jason would expect us to do. What Jason chooses to do with it is his call. I'm sure he's broad shouldered enough to take it with a grain of salt, and confident enough in his writing and editorial abilities to appreciate helpful commentary when he gets it. Tom Rambo,#54 Lambda Chi Zeta Pittsburg State University 1972 With all due respect to Brother Broglin, this most certainly is the proper forum to offer criticisms. Any editor should be concerned with the opinions of his/her readers regarding the content of their work. If you’re going to write and edit in a web-based format and you can’t deal with criticsim, you’re in the wrong line of work!

One of the advantages (or disadvantages, depending on your perspective) of the web is that you can provide/receive immediate feedback. I write for a living, providing content for online training courses on a variety of different subjects. I get feedback on a regular basis. If it’s helpful, I incorporate it into my work; if it’s not, I blow it off. Regardless of whether it’s pro or con, one thing is for sure; I’m going to receive it whether I like it or not.

As I said in my previous comment, I would be more than happy to provide content for C&C, as I’m sure Brother Woods would, or any of our brothers with some talent for writing. It would, of course, be subject to review by Jason Pearce in his role as editor.

Again, my opinion of the publication overall is quite positive. I will, however, continue to offer constructive criticism when I feel it’s warranted, as I would hope all brothers would do, and as I would hope Jason would expect us to do. What Jason chooses to do with it is his call. I’m sure he’s broad shouldered enough to take it with a grain of salt, and confident enough in his writing and editorial abilities to appreciate helpful commentary when he gets it.

Tom Rambo,#54
Lambda Chi Zeta
Pittsburg State University 1972

]]> By: Chris Broglin-Sigma Alpha 59 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-956 Chris Broglin-Sigma Alpha 59 Mon, 09 Oct 2006 14:02:20 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-956 Gentlemen: It seems several of you are too quick to criticize but how many of you are willing to step up to the plate and contribute. I had no problem realizing Mr. Bratt was a Lambda Chi from reading the article. I believe Jason did a fine job providing information on one of my favorite actors on one of my all-time favorite shows. Come on, read & enjoy. If you want to be an entertainment critic or a publishing editor, have at it. This however, is not the proper forum. ZAX, Chris Broglin Vincennes University 72 Indiana University 74 Gentlemen:
It seems several of you are too quick to criticize but how many of you are willing to step up to the plate and contribute. I had no problem realizing Mr. Bratt was a Lambda Chi from reading the article.

I believe Jason did a fine job providing information on one of my favorite actors on one of my all-time favorite shows. Come on, read & enjoy. If you want to be an entertainment critic or a publishing editor, have at it. This however, is not the proper forum.

ZAX,
Chris Broglin
Vincennes University 72
Indiana University 74

]]> By: Tom Earp, LX Z 1 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-913 Tom Earp, LX Z 1 Sun, 08 Oct 2006 22:02:31 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-913 So, out of wanting to know, what has Benjamin Bratt done to be part of LXA if anything? This smacks to the Printed C & C when the wowies, did and when We as Broters actually want to know more about what Our Zetas are doing, Good, Bad, or Indifferent! Great, He is Brother, did He give an interview or not? No! This is supposed to be about Our Brothers, Active and Alumni and how We are doing as a International Greek Organization. I hate smoke signnals, I want to know what is going on from IHQ. Oh, Our IHQ! Jaason. get with it and print what has been asked for! So, out of wanting to know, what has Benjamin Bratt done to be part of LXA if anything?

This smacks to the Printed C & C when the wowies, did and when We as Broters actually want to know more about what Our Zetas are doing, Good, Bad, or Indifferent!

Great, He is Brother, did He give an interview or not? No!

This is supposed to be about Our Brothers, Active and Alumni and how We are doing as a International Greek Organization.

I hate smoke signnals, I want to know what is going on from IHQ.

Oh, Our IHQ!

Jaason. get with it and print what has been asked for!

]]> By: Bob Burke ZH670 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-893 Bob Burke ZH670 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 00:21:11 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-893 Yes, it is true the charter of the LXA chapter at UC Santa Barbara has been revoked as of two years ago. The chapter was alive and thriving in the 1980s when Ben Bratt was a member. [Aside: Hi Bill Clemons!] Yes, it is true the charter of the LXA chapter at UC Santa Barbara has been revoked as of two years ago. The chapter was alive and thriving in the 1980s when Ben Bratt was a member.
[Aside: Hi Bill Clemons!]

]]> By: Bill Clemons ZH770 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-884 Bill Clemons ZH770 Wed, 04 Oct 2006 02:58:44 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-884 Sure he was. I went through with him; a very charasmatic man, even in his formative years. Or, maybe it was the ties...Yours in ZAX...Phantom. Sure he was. I went through with him; a very charasmatic man, even in his formative years. Or, maybe it was the ties…Yours in ZAX…Phantom.

]]> By: Eric Feigl http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-878 Eric Feigl Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:34:21 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-878 Guys, take it easy on the author--lots of bashing... PAZ 706 Guys, take it easy on the author–lots of bashing…
PAZ 706

]]> By: Robert Cottone http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-876 Robert Cottone Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:20:16 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-876 It is unclear as to whether was in a fraternity or not…Benjamin Bratt could not have been a Lambda Chi at your UCSB link (http://www.sa.ucsb.edu/osl/GreekLife/chapterinfo/inter-fraternity.asp) because there is no LAMBDA CHI Chapter there (unless the charter was revoked…) Please clearly where and when he was a member and what his fraternal experience was. Else, I can just read People magazine for my up to minute entertainment report. Perhaps a review of the “LOST” cast would be more appropriate subject matter for your next exposé… It is unclear as to whether was in a fraternity or not…Benjamin Bratt could not have been a Lambda Chi at your UCSB link (http://www.sa.ucsb.edu/osl/GreekLife/chapterinfo/inter-fraternity.asp) because there is no LAMBDA CHI Chapter there (unless the charter was revoked…) Please clearly where and when he was a member and what his fraternal experience was. Else, I can just read People magazine for my up to minute entertainment report. Perhaps a review of the “LOST” cast would be more appropriate subject matter for your next exposé…

]]> By: Chris Barrick http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-874 Chris Barrick Tue, 03 Oct 2006 15:07:25 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-874 David, Dean Jagger did infact win an Academy Award but the sidebar is about people who have been nominated or have won Emmys as Bratt has. David,

Dean Jagger did infact win an Academy Award but the sidebar is about people who have been nominated or have won Emmys as Bratt has.

]]> By: Tom Rambo, LXZ #54, 1972 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-873 Tom Rambo, LXZ #54, 1972 Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:45:04 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-873 I think Brother Woods raises a point worth pursuing. Lambda Chi Alpha not only defined my college experience; it helped shape the man I've become. I would be far more interested in learning about the impact the fraternity has had on other brother's lives than learning that Dean Jagger and Benjamin Bratt are Lambda Chis. Like Brother Woods, I would be more than happy to share my experiences, as I'm sure hundreds of other brothers would as well. Overall, I'm very happy with the content and quality of the online Cross and Crescent. I particularly enjoy the articles on fraternity history, like the one in the current issue about the Theta Kappa Nu ritual. I had my doubts about giving up on the magazine format, but I think they've pretty much been put to rest. I also like the fact that the Internet format allows instant feedback and commentary. I think Brother Woods raises a point worth pursuing. Lambda Chi Alpha not only defined my college experience; it helped shape the man I’ve become. I would be far more interested in learning about the impact the fraternity has had on other brother’s lives than learning that Dean Jagger and Benjamin Bratt are Lambda Chis. Like Brother Woods, I would be more than happy to share my experiences, as I’m sure hundreds of other brothers would as well.

Overall, I’m very happy with the content and quality of the online Cross and Crescent. I particularly enjoy the articles on fraternity history, like the one in the current issue about the Theta Kappa Nu ritual. I had my doubts about giving up on the magazine format, but I think they’ve pretty much been put to rest. I also like the fact that the Internet format allows instant feedback and commentary.

]]> By: David L. Woods http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-870 David L. Woods Tue, 03 Oct 2006 12:27:01 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-870 Jason: It is always tough to be an editor. But I suspect in today's web site & blogs, it has become even tougher. Now, everyone thinnks they are an editor, too. And it is so much easier to reply on line than having to use pen, pencil, typewriter, paper, envelope, & stamp. As a PR pro for at least 50 years, I think this web mag is a lot better than i expected. But I suggest you think more like the readers who replied -- but in advance. Your comments back & decision are excelllent, but you could have easily included them in the story in the first place, which would have reduced the fields on which your critics could comment. I'm sure most of those of us with time & willingness to comment on passt fraternal days & business or career lessons learned are less prominent as individuals than the level you would prefer to feature. I guess I was aware Bratt was a brother, but your story of his career seemed better to me than what might exist on the Wipetka free encyclopedia -- although I haven't looked yet. DLW ZN 45 Jason: It is always tough to be an editor. But I suspect in today’s web site & blogs, it has become even tougher. Now, everyone thinnks they are an editor, too. And it is so much easier to reply on line than having to use pen, pencil, typewriter, paper, envelope, & stamp. As a PR pro for at least 50 years, I think this web mag is a lot better than i expected. But I suggest you think more like the readers who replied — but in advance. Your comments back & decision are excelllent, but you could have easily included them in the story in the first place, which would have reduced the fields on which your critics could comment. I’m sure most of those of us with time & willingness to comment on passt fraternal days & business or career lessons learned are less prominent as individuals than the level you would prefer to feature. I guess I was aware Bratt was a brother, but your story of his career seemed better to me than what might exist on the Wipetka free encyclopedia — although I haven’t looked yet. DLW ZN 45

]]> By: Jason Pearce http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-856 Jason Pearce Tue, 03 Oct 2006 00:26:33 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-856 Brothers, The first sentence states that Benjamin Bratt is a 1984 graduate from our California-Santa Barbara chapter; sorry if this was confusing. And had he agreed to our request for an interview, we would have gladly written more about his fraternal experience. Sadly, he has not responded to our requests. As for Dean Jagger in the sidebar, he was nominated for an <a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0415591/awards" rel="nofollow">Emmy</a> in 1964 and 1965 for his work in the television series "Mr. Novak." While he did win an Oscar in 1950 for his work in "Twelve O'Clock High," we mentioned only Jagger's Emmy because it was the one thing Bratt, Boothe, Geer, and Jagger have in common. Sincerely, Jason Pearce, Editor Brothers,

The first sentence states that Benjamin Bratt is a 1984 graduate from our California-Santa Barbara chapter; sorry if this was confusing. And had he agreed to our request for an interview, we would have gladly written more about his fraternal experience. Sadly, he has not responded to our requests.

As for Dean Jagger in the sidebar, he was nominated for an Emmy in 1964 and 1965 for his work in the television series “Mr. Novak.” While he did win an Oscar in 1950 for his work in “Twelve O’Clock High,” we mentioned only Jagger’s Emmy because it was the one thing Bratt, Boothe, Geer, and Jagger have in common.

Sincerely,
Jason Pearce, Editor

]]> By: Tyler http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-850 Tyler Mon, 02 Oct 2006 23:55:00 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-850 Where was he a Lambda Chi and what were his experiences as a brother? Simple journalism, appeal to your audience. Where was he a Lambda Chi and what were his experiences as a brother? Simple journalism, appeal to your audience.

]]> By: David Ritchey http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-849 David Ritchey Mon, 02 Oct 2006 23:32:12 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-849 About Dean Jagger -- he won an Academy Award. Author, please do all of your research. About Dean Jagger — he won an Academy Award.
Author, please do all of your research.

]]> By: Ken Thorp http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-846 Ken Thorp Mon, 02 Oct 2006 22:32:21 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-846 I agree with Tom Rambo. I'd like to know more about their fraternity experience and how it helped to shape their life. I agree with Tom Rambo. I’d like to know more about their fraternity experience and how it helped to shape their life.

]]> By: Tom Rambo, LXZ #54, 1972 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-844 Tom Rambo, LXZ #54, 1972 Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:49:09 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-844 If I all I wanted to know was information about Benjamin Bratt's acting resume, I could go to IMDB.com and get the same, if not better, information. Unless you can provide some insight regarding a celebrity member's feelings about their fraternity experience, I don't see the point in writing an article about them. If I all I wanted to know was information about Benjamin Bratt’s acting resume, I could go to IMDB.com and get the same, if not better, information. Unless you can provide some insight regarding a celebrity member’s feelings about their fraternity experience, I don’t see the point in writing an article about them.

]]> By: Skip Selle http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/comment-page-1/#comment-840 Skip Selle Mon, 02 Oct 2006 21:03:25 +0000 http://www.crossandcrescent.com/2006/10/emmy-nominated-actor-benjamin-bratt/#comment-840 Is Benjamin Bratt and Lambda Chi? If so, when and where? Is Benjamin Bratt and Lambda Chi? If so, when and where?

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